Spoiled Children of Divorce


Exemplary Children of Divorce – Barry Manilow

Blockbuster singer/songwriter Barry Manilow is a Child of D.  Manilow’s parents divorced just after he turned 2 years old and he grew up with his Mother and Grandparents in Brooklyn, New York.   Manilow changed his last name to his Mother’s maiden name when he was around 13 years old.  I’m not sure how much of a relationship he had with his Father.

Both parents remarried.  Manilow’s Mother remarried at some point in the late 1950’s.  Manilow would have been in his mid to late teens. Manilow credits his Step-Father with having introduced him to Jazz.

I’m unclear about sibling relationships.  According to a website, Manilow was raised basically as an only child, but had two step-brothers from his Mother’s remarriage.  He possibly has a step-brother and a half-brother through his Father’s remarriage.  I’m not real sure about this information, though.

Below is an except of an interview on the TV show Larry King Live from 2002 in which Manilow desribes his childhood.  (Full transcript of the show is here. //transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0205/17/1k1.00html. Sorry, I messed up the link thingee).  Manilow had just put out an album called Here at the Mayflower which apparently was based on the apartment building where he and his family (Mother’s side) lived.  It featured two hits  “Turn the Radio Up” and “They Dance.”  Manilow’s music is all about being positive and making people feel good.  “Turn the Radio Up” is about using music to combat misery and worry.

According to Wikipedia, Manilow is Jewish on his Mother’s side and Jewish-Irish on his Father’s side.  His Step-Father is Irish.

KING: Was your childhood tough?

MANILOW: No. I don’t say it was tough. No.

KING: Your parents were divorced?

MANILOW: Parents were divorced. I was raised by my mother and my grandparents and a lot of relatives around this Williamsburg, Brooklyn, Mayflower…

KING: Jewish neighborhood?

MANILOW: Jewish neighborhood, Jewish, Puerto Rican. It was very ethnic. I loved it.

KING: But your stepfather though was Irish, right?

MANILOW: Yes. I just saw him. He lives down in…

KING: You close?

MANILOW: Well, we’re not close. He lives in Florida and I don’t. But he was the guy that turned my musical motor on.

KING: Really?

MANILOW: Well, before Willie Murphy (ph) came into my life, I was playing the accordion, and “Have Nagila” and all of the folk songs that my grandparents loved.

KING: Worked at bar mitzvahs?

MANILOW: Well, I should have been so lucky. I wasn’t even up to bar mitzvahs. I was just playing folk songs on the accordion.

KING: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)

MANILOW: You got it. And I wasn’t bad, believe it or not. But that would have been it, had Willie not come into my life.

KING: What did he do?

MANILOW: He came into my life with a stack of albums that turned my musical motor on. He brought a stereo system in that I never had and a stack of albums that had people like Stan Kenton and June Christy and Broadway show music like “The Most Happy Fella” and “Kismet” and “Kiss me, Kate” and on and on. It was a stack of gold.



Exemplary Children of Divorce – Raymond Chandler

One of the great old time masters of detective mystery writing, Raymond Chandler, was a Child of D.  Chandler’s Mother was an Irish Immigrant.  His Father was a civil engineer who was alcoholic.  The family moved around quite a bit because the father worked for the railroad.  Dad was absent a great deal of the time and eventually abandoned the family.  Chandler was raised by his Mother.  His uncle supported the pair financially.

I’m not sure when the divorce actually occurred.  Chandler’s Mother took him to Europe for awhile when he was around 11 or 12. Supposedly they took a boat in June, 1900.  Chandler was going through his Jupiter Return at that time.

Since I’ve found multiple examples of kids who go through their parents’ split during or around the time of their Jupiter Return who tend to become successful in Jupiterian Professions like Law, Publishing, Higher Education, Religion, etc. I’m pretty excited to find this prominence in Chandler’s chart.  I’m finding a lot of published writers whose parents split apart during this Return phase at any rate.

Success doesn’t guarantee happiness, of course.  Chandler suffered his own struggle with alcoholism just like his Father.  His Jupiter was in Scorpio (murder, crime, the dark side, detective work) opposing Neptune (escapism, addiction).  The Wikipedia biography on Chandler is really interesting.  He married a woman who was 18 years his senior (Venus c. Saturn-Sun-NN) and it seems that when she died he became despondent and tried to commit suicide.  It sounds like he suffered from serious depression his whole life.



Exemplary Children of Divorce – E.O. Wilson

In 1937, his parents divorced and he was passed from relative to relative before being returned to his alcoholic father, experiences that profoundly shaped his life. ‘A nomadic existence made Nature my companion of choice, because the outdoors was the one part of my world I perceived to hold rock steady. Animals and plants I could count on; human relationships were more difficult.’

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/01/usa.science

Sociobiologist Edward O. Wilson whose parents divorced when he was 7 years old found a creative outlet for his expression through the life style brought on by his parents’ divorce.  The year of the divorce he was blinded in one eye during a fishing accident.  The eyesight in his other eye began to lose vision and he began to lose the ability to hear in the upper registers, so lost the ability to hear bird songs.

Because he obviously is incredibly adaptable (and adaptable) he continued his love of the observation of nature by focusing on the study of insects later on in college.  They were small and could be observed close up.



Exemplary Children of Divorce – Liza Lou
August 6, 2009, 7:15 pm
Filed under: College Drop Out, Exemplary Children of Divorce, Religion, creativity

Biographies of Modern Artists are difficult to come by.  Artists speak through their work first and if they’re successful a biographer comes along and explains the life experience from which the art springs.  I was really pleased to find that Artist Liza Lou is from a divorced family.  Lou is an American Artist who makes unbelievably beautiful sculptures which are covered in tiny beads.  She became famous for her life-size portrayal of a modern american kitchen which sparkles and gleams.  It’s a feminist commentary.  It’s also interesting that she chose to show an idealized version of something related to home.

Lou’s childhood seems very strange.  Her parents were bohemian artists living in New York until they found God and became Born Again Christians and moved to the suburbs.  Lou’s Father seems to have gone off the deep-end.  She has performed a piece about his abuse.  Lou has a sister.  I don’t know what age she was when her parents divorced.  She is said to be still close to her Mother.

Excellent article (with pictures) here.

From the article:

“Liza’s work is an imitation of life, where nothing is real,” says her Paris gallerist, Thaddaeus Ropac. “At the same time, it’s so present that it can be very frightening.” According to art historian and critic Robert Pincus-Witten, it offers a unique synthesis of issues deriving from conceptualism, Pop art and feminism. “There’s that ambiguity between the extremely luxurious and the politically terrifying,” he says.

You don’t have to dig very deeply into Lou’s personal history to find the wellsprings for her works’ conflicting themes. Her parents lived determinedly bohemian lives in Manhattan until 1965, when they attended a revival meeting and became born-again Christians. After burning all of their books and artworks, including Roy Lichtenstein paintings that were gifts from the artist, they moved to Minnesota, where they worked for various fundamentalist churches. Lou and her sister grew up watching exorcisms and speaking in tongues.

At a certain point in her teens, Lou began to question some of the tales she’d been told: Did King David really speak to her mother in the hospital after Lou was born, to explain that the baby was a blessing unto this world? (Today, although not exactly an atheist, Lou says she isn’t a believer, either: “Certain things have to line up for me in terms of logic.”) In 1989 she took a summer trip to Europe, and in the cathedrals of Florence and Venice, she experienced revelations, though they had less to do with Jesus than with mosaics and Byzantine domes. “As an American kid who grew up in the suburbs—postmodern churches with plastic chairs and all that crap—it was totally transforming to be in a place that took hundreds of years to make,” Lou says. “That blew me away.”



Weird Children of Divorce – Carrie Prejean

Golden Girl Miss California, Carrie Prejean, has lost her Tiara. That’s what you get when you try to compete with the Tranny’s for “Most Beautiful Girl” title, Sweetheart.  The Gay men are having their way with her. That’s gross.

Prejean lost a chance to win the Miss America (or Miss USA, I don’t know which) Crown by proudly announcing to Gay Blogger and Fat Slob Emcee Perez Hilton that she said she doesn’t believe that Gay People should be allowed to get married.  That makes me first wonder, What the Hell is a Fat Slob like Perez Hilton representing the Gay Community for?  Geez, the minute people even think about getting the right to get married they just start letting themselves go.  Then I think, how can a gorgeous girl like that growing up in a liberal place like California be so narrow minded?  Especially one who is so dependent on Gay Men to make her look like a Queen.

Our Princess, Our Queen, Our Princess, Carrie has lost her Crown.  Apparently she hasn’t been showing up for her Miss California activities and today she received a letter of termination from Donald Trump.  What impresses me is that it appears that the reason why Carrie is no longer appearing is not because she bared her Christian boobies to a photographer way back when, not because she openly spoke her mind in a country which espouses Freedom of Speech, but because the Gays are attacking her childhood.  They couldn’t just drop it.  They dug up her parents’ divorce papers.  Oh yeah, baby, that’s as low as it goes, especially when you hear Carrie’s story.

And so that’s why Carrie’s appearing in this blog.  I can’t put her in the Exemplaries Section and I can’t put her in the Bad Section.  But, remember how I’ve been pondering whether female Children of D tend to get beaten up more by men?  Well, here’s another case.  Once the kid goes through that much heartbreak, that much humiliation, that much cover-up, the sewer just seems to keep looking for an inlet.

At any rate, Carrie’s parents’ divorce seems to have been nasty, really nasty. (or, actually, for California it’s pretty normal).  And it went on for a really, really long time.  Her parents used the custody battle of the kids as a reason to fight with each other for her ENTIRE childhood.  This certainly explains why she clings to  conservative and uptight values with regards to family.  She grew up in Hell. Give her a break.  Let her speak.

According to the San Francisco Examiner

Prejean’s parents divorced when she was around 1 year old.  The Child Custody fights continued until she was at least 12 years old.  The parents maybe, just maybe, stopped humiliating her just as she hit puberty.  How generous and thoughtful. At any rate, every single insult they hurled at each was recorded in court documents and among those were allegations that both the Father and the Step-Father were Gay, I think also the Mother.  Coming from a bad divorce situation myself I can only think, “So What?  That’s normal.  People always say shit like that during divorces and the kids are in the middle of it all.”

You’re Gay!

You’re Gay!

You’re Gay! (generally more derogative wording is used)

That’s normal Divorce banter.  NORMAL.

So, not only are these creepy Gay guys ignorant of what goes on in Divorce Custody battles (narcissists that they tend to be they think it’s all about them) but now they are dredging that Hell up for Prejean to go through all over again.  And all because they are jealous of her and want her title and hips and boobs (and lip gloss).

Prejean’s a Beauty Queen for Christ’s Sake!  That’s a shallow, conservative vision of women’s beauty.  In the Straight World, if you compete in those Pageants you might as well be announcing that you’re a Republican and Newt Gingrich is God.  Apparently the Gay World is just as ignorant about what goes on in Divorced families. You guys are even as far as being equally defective as far as I’m concerned.

As much as I believe that Gays should by given the right to Marriage if they really, really want to, what I’m thinking right now is –  Wow, they’re really mean and petty.  You think straight people are nasty in a divorce court? Just imagine what Perez Hilton would be like.

Oh yeah, and I checked.  Perez Hilton?  We can breathe a big sigh of relief here — not a Child of D.  Perez’s Mommy and Daddy let him sit in bed all day and watch TV and get all spoiled and depressed.  Maybe that’s why the guy has flab where his heart should be.  What the Hell is a jerk like that talking about the sanctity of Marriage for anyway?



Exemplary Children of Divorce – Edgar Allen Poe

“Once upon a midnight dreary”

was written by a Child of D.  I suppose it makes sense…

Last week’s New Yorker magazine published an article about Poe’s life called “The Humbug” written by Jill Lepore.

(http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2009/04/27/090427crat_atlarge_lepore)

Edgar Allen Poe was born to an actress.  A year after he was born his Father left.  Two years after Poe was born his Mother died.  Poe and his siblings were separated and Poe was raised by a wealthy merchant and his wife.  He was never adopted by these people.  It seems that wild swings in financial fortunes and power plays dominated the household of Poe’s childhood and  Poe was out on his own by the time he was 17. 

He also had drinking and gambling problems from very early on. Financially strapped, Poe joined the military for a while and then attended West Point.  He wrote for money. It seems he moved around a lot.  His love life seems equally difficult.  The women in his life seemed to have suffered illnesses and to have passed away.  At age 27 Poe married his 13 year old cousin.  The marriage lasted about 12 years before Virginia, his wife, died of tuberculosis.  Poe died at Age 40.

Wikipedia:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Allan_Poe



Exemplary Children of Divorce – Lisa and Laura Ling
April 18, 2009, 7:00 pm
Filed under: Exemplary Children of Divorce

Journalists Lisa and Laura Ling are sisters who were raised by their Father in Sacramento, California.  Hence, they will be included here in the Exemplaries files.  Both women are very independent and successful reporters who work mostly in foreign relations.

Lisa Ling is the eldest sister and is very well known.  According to the link listed below she was 7 years old when her parents divorced.  She began her career early in Broadcast Journalism at Age 16.  She is very well known for her many reporting duties mostly relating to International Affairs and for her work on “The View” where she gave a 20 something viewpoint.  I’ve never watched the show but some internet sources say that her Mother appeared on the show with Lisa.

I’m not sure of her age but younger sister Laura is also a foreign correspondent (edit:  Huffington Post says Laura is 32 years old, b. 1976 or 77, she’s married).  While covering a story for Al Gore’s Current TV,  she was arrested with fellow report Euna Lee for entering the North Korean borders. (Edit:  I believe that Euna Lee is 36 years old, married, with a 4-year old daughter).  The two were investigating the lives of refugees who escape from North Korea into China.  They are being detained and are said to be awaiting trial to determine their innocence or guilt.  If found guilty they will be detained in North Korean Prison camps for up to 10 years.

Please send prayers to Laura and Euna.  I’m unclear about whether anyone else in their party was detained, but apparently at least one crew member managed to escape.

http://tv.yahoo.com/lisa-ling/contributor/39224/bio;_ylt=AjKjrOLR51VWvundpZnsET2.o9EF

Father talks briefly about raising his daughters and saying that they were always independent and strong-minded.  http://www.kcra.com/news/18967738/detail.html.  He says “I always worry.”  Mr. Ling is native Chinese born and worked as an aviation supervisor for the Air Force.



Exemplary Children of Divorce – Noah Baumbach

Noah Baumbach is the Director/Writer of one of the few true movies about going through a Divorce, The Squid and the Whale.  It is said to be based on experiences he went through during his own parents’ divorce.  Baumbach’s biography is a little sketchy so I’m not sure of his age at the time of his parent’s divorce.  I’m assuming he was around Age 15 or 16.

The Squid and the Whale is about a family living in Brooklyn in the mid-80s.  The parents are intellectuals, both writers, the Father is going through a mid-life crisis and down-turn in his career and ego and the Mother’s career is just taking off.  The sons are age 12 and age 16.  The movie does a great job of showing the strangeness of going through adolescence while also going through the parents’ divorce.

I saw the movie a while ago and thought it a little dry.  The significance of the Squid and the Whale is explained at the end but I was spacing out at that point.  Sorry.

Supposedly the first words were the 12 year old Son saying:  “Me and Mom against you and Dad.”  That definitely sums it up pretty well.

There’s a great article at indiewire which analyzes the relationships.  http://www.indiewire.com/article/noahs_arc_noah_baumbachs_the_squid_and_the_whale

Here’s a quote about how narcissistic parents raise their kids in divorce.  Can hardly wait for the sequel with Step-Parents and siblings:

“the parental choice to treat children as equals can be admirable but also suggests a deeper selfishness that seems fundamentally at odds with the job.”



Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?

For some reason I’ve been remembering the old Horror movie from the 1960’s called Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? 

Now appreciated mostly as a camp classic it is one of the most psychotic portrayals of women living together under one roof that has ever been produced.  The two actresses in the movie let their ugliest sides show, almost as if they were giving the finger to the Hollywood Glamour machine.  At any rate, I just can’t imagine someone coming from an Intact family being able to create that level of tension within a house. The story is mostly about sibling rivalry, two spinsters with life long jealousies and resentments almost kill each other.

Just had to check…both Joan Crawford and Bette Davis were Children of D.  Man, you can tell they were given way too much information at too tender an age.

Bette Davis’ parents divorced in 1915 when she would have been around 10 years old.

Joan Crawford’s father left just a few months after she was born.

Out of curiosity I checked the biographies of other screen stars from the 20th Century and found the following:

Sophia Loren – parents never married

Audrey Hepburn – Parents divorced around Age 6

Lauren Bacall – Parents divorced Age 5

Jean Harlow – Parents divorced Age 11

Lana Turner – Parents divorce around Age 9

Marilyn Monroe – Parents divorced Age 1-2



Exemplary Children of Divorce – Quincy Jones

I heard Music Composer and Producer Quincy Jones in an interview on NPR this afternoon (Nov. 27 or 28, sorry for late publishing).  Part of the discussion was about Jones’ childhood which he speaks about with a rare openness.  His Mother was schizophrenic and spent much of her life in a mental hospital.  In his Autobiography he describes watching the authorities strapping her in to a straight jacket and hauling her off.  Jones’  Father remarried around the time that Jones was 11 years old and he moved the new family from Chicago to Bremerton in Washington state.  His Step Mother was a bad influence who treated Jones and his younger Brother very badly, giving them less food and clothes than the other children.  I’m listening to the audiobook version of his Autobiography and can’t quote exactly but Jones describes her handling of the children in the Household in that she “Divided the kids into three categories:  His, Hers and Theirs.”  Jones’ schizophrenic Mother periodically escaped the Mental Hospital and eventually followed her sons to Washington where she both terrified them through her illness and tried to stay in touch with them. 

In the interview, Jones describes living in his Father’s household as “living with strangers.”   He gives good advice about how one must not hold these experiences in.  For him this happened mostly by escaping into his music.  It helps that he had huge amounts of talent.  The music industry can be very hard on someone from this background who doesn’t have quite the level of talent  (– that’s just a warning.)

I highly recommend the audiobook.  Most interesting, of course, is listening about Jones’ accomplishments in his profession.  He met Ray Charles, for example, when he was 14 years olds and Charles was 16.  But Jones’ insights into his family are very helpful.  He talks about his anger at his parents and how he blamed his Father for what was happening more than his Mothers “Because he was the one who kept it together.”  This is true.  You really do blame the one the most who is reacting to the whole situation with the least amount of reaction.  He talks about not understanding how he was much less affected by what happened than his younger brother who used to cry every night.

During an Internet search I found this article (http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/jon0int-2) in which he describes his childhood and how his brother’s reaction to the family situation was so much more negative.  I wonder if a lot of the reason for this is , of course, 1) inherited genetic disposition to mental problems  which would be the only thing the psych people consider (which is why they can’t actually help anyone). Birth order (Jones is eldest) could also be a huge factor as I’ve discussed before.  The oldest seem to be the ones who make it out, they always have someone to face the problems with and they always have the youngest to come home to as a stable base.  The youngest have longer exposure to the family and must deal with it by themselves after the oldest have left. They have no stable base.  And, of course, another reason could be that the younger brother didn’t have the talent and/or luck of his older brother.  Jones was extremely gifted and successful from an early age and his talent was recognized.  He found an identity early on outside of the family and left the home early, around Age 16.  This seems to be a key factor in surviving bad Divorce situations.   Those extra years of waiting to get out are a real spirit killer.

I also found an interview with his son Quincy Jones III who also speaks briefly about his parents’ divorce when he was 3 or 4.  He moved with his Mother to Sweden.  He talks about his relationship with his Father, his Mother’s addiction, his childhood, the divorce:

TONY: How much of your parents divorce did you understand and comprehend? I mean, you were pretty young.

QD3: I never thought about it until I turned 15-years-old. My parents got divorced when I was 3 or 4, and me and my mother and sister moved to Sweden. I was probably too young to process it. And I didn’t think about it until I was going through a photo album when I was 15-years-old, and I was like, “Wait a minute, we don’t really know each other that well.” And I’d visit him in L.A. on summer break, but for the rest of the year I was in another country. I would sometimes bring Michael Jackson records to school (in Sweden) to show my friends what my father did, and they would laugh and think I was lying because we lived in public housing. And it kind of struck a nerve, and I started thinking about it a little more. Then I was around 16-years-old, and I moved to East Harlem, New York and later the South Bronx, and then to L.A. Once I moved to L.A., we started bonding a lot more. Now we’re good friends and we’re also very alike in many ways.

TONY: You talked about your mother earlier and her battle with drug addiction. Personally, my mother passed away after a long battle with prescription medication and alcohol. If someone is reading our interview and dealing with a similar situation in their family, what’s your advice on how to deal with it?

QD3: Sorry to hear that, it’s tough, because in my situation I tried to help her my entire life and tried to “fix” the situation. And I was not able to do it. So I would say try to be as objective as you can and try to have compassion for your parents. Also know that it’s not your fault, that’s the main thing.

It’s up to you if you want to break the family cycles. With the pain comes long term benefits, and I might not have been drawn to socially relevant media had it not been for my upbringing and some of the stuff that I went through when I was younger: Having seen both extremes of society first hand (rich/poor), having to grow up quick and moving a lot gave me the tools, drive and empathy that I needed for the job I want do now which is build an (urban) multimedia company (qd3.com) that creates programming of substance that is relatable, empowering, deals with “real” issues, is entertaining and has residual value to viewers. My background gave me the ability to relate to all walks of life and levels of society organically, from the ghetto to the elite, so I feel I was put in a position to build helpful bridges of understanding between various demographics through media. So my advice is believe in yourself and try to find a way to turn your past into a benefit. Painful experiences give you drive, strength and compassion to do bigger things than you would otherwise have been capable of, use it as fuel.

from:  http://www.nobodysmiling.com/hiphop/interview/87592.php