Spoiled Children of Divorce

Talking About Mental Health

Here’s an interesting discussion. Olympic Swimmer Michael Phelps discusses his problems with Depression, Anxiety and Suicidal feelings. He talks with David Axelrod who talks a bit about his Father’s Suicide which he said he never talked about with anyone for 30 years. (In astrobabble terms, that’s a Saturn Return. Saturn rules the Father and also Depression). Neither interviewer or interviewee discusses being Children of Divorce. The stigma is just that strong.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-phelps-helping-others-with-depression-light-years-better-than-olympic-gold/CBSnews. Michael Phelps discusses mental health.

Exemplary Children of Divorce – Mark Manson

Here’s an except blogger Mark Manson wrote about his parents’ divorce in The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck. Completely different from my own experience. Manson writes a blog giving dating advice and has published an article called “It’s not our parents’ fault” which doesn’t discuss Divorce at all.

from pp. 52-55

“And just when I had finally cleaned up my act and turned in my assignments and learned the value of good clerical responsibility, my parents decided to get divorced.

“I tell you all of this only to point out that my adolescence sucked donkey balls. I lost all of my friends, my community, my legal rights, and my family within the span of about nine months. My Therapist in my twenties would later call this ‘some real traumatic shit,’ and I would spend the next decade-and- change working on unraveling it and becoming less of a self-absorbed, entitled little prick.

“The problem with my home life back then was not all of the horrible things that were said or done; rather, it was all of the horrible things that needed to be said and done but weren’t. My family stonewalls the way Warren Buffet makes money or Janna Jameson fucks: we’re champions at it. The house could have been burning down around us and it would have been met with, ‘Oh no, everything’s fine. A tad warm in here, perhaps–but really, everything’s fine.’

“When my parents got divorced, there were no broken dishes, no slammed doors, no screaming arguments about who fucked whom. Once they had reassured my brother and me that it wasn’t our fault, we had a Q&A session — yes you read that right — about the logistics of the new living arrangement. Not a tear was shed. Not a voice was raised. The closest peek my brother and I got into our parents’ unraveling emotional lives was hearing, ‘Nobody cheated on anybody.’ Oh, that’s nice. It was a tad warm in the room, but really, everything was fine.


“When ‘real traumatic shit’ like this happens in our lives, we begin to unconsciously feel as though we have problems that we’re incapable of ever solving. And this assume inability to solve our problems causes us to feel miserable and helpless.

“But it also causes something else to happen. If we have problems that are unsolvable, our unconscious figures that we’re either uniquely special or uniquely defective in some way. That we’re somehow unlike everyone else and that the rules must be different for us.

“Put simply: we become entitled.

“The pain from my adolescence led me down a road of entitlement that lasted through much of my early adulthood.


“My trauma had revolved around intimacy and acceptance, so I felt a constant need to overcompensate, to proe to myself that I was loved and accepted at all times. And as a result, I soon took to chasing women the same way a cocaine addict takes to a snowman made out of cocaine: I made sweet love to it, and then promptly suffocated myself in it.

“I became a player–an immature, selfish, albeit sometimes charming player. And I strung up a long series of superficial and unhealthy relationships for the better part of a decade.

“I was often unemployed, living on friends’ couches or with my mom, drinking way more than I should have been, alienating a number of friends–and when I did meet a woman I really like, my self-absorption quickly torpedoed everything.

Exemplary Children of Divorce – Manly P. Hall

The early 20th century in the United States was populated by spiritual and psychic gurus. Many of them apparently were phonies. One who is considered genuine was Manly P. Hall. Hall was born in Canada. His father was a dentist who he never met. His mother left him in the care of his grandmother so she could go to chiropractor school. She was a Rosicrucian which was a popular religion in California and was probably a big influence on Hall’s later work. Hall’s parents shared his last name so I suppose they were married and divorced before his first year. Halls mother left him (I think at age of 3 but am not sure) and his grandmother moved him to South Dakota. The grandmother passed away when he was sixteen. He then moved to California to either be with his Mother or with the Rosicruceans, or both. Hall had great good luck finding followers and financial backing through women donors. He published his greatest work before the age of 28.

The astrology is interesting in that it shows a big influence from the Moon. Children whose parents divorce very early during the first year will only have completed a few lunar cycles. This could set the influence of this planet in their character and destiny. The Moon can give great public attention, psychic abilities and sensitivity, and also influence from women, Home, food, babies, and childbearing. The Moon represents the Mother so I wonder how that figured in his life. Hall’s book, “The Secret Teachings of all Ages,” was published during his first secondary progressed lunar return. It has never gone out of print.

Exemplary Children of Divorce – Jack Parsons
May 29, 2016, 4:29 pm
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Jack Parsons is remembered as a Rocket Scientist who helped start the Jet Propulsion laboratory at the California Institute of Technology. He is also remembered for his wild personal life as he was a follower of the cult started by Aleister Crowly. He experimented with drugs and participated in sexual orgies and whatever else it says on his Wikipedia bio.

According to Wikipedia Parsons was born on October 2, 1914. His Mother threw his father out of the house for visiting prostitues about 5 or 6 months later in March, 1915. Shamed, his Father moved back to Massachusetts where his parents were originally from. Parsons’ rich grandparents moved to California and raised him and his mother in a very nice neighborhood. Parsons spent a solitary childhood and read a lot. He became interested in mythology and then Science Fiction and futurist thinking around the age of 10-12. Parsons did poorly in school because it’s thought that he was dyslexic. (That doesn’t explain all the time spent reading.) He was bullied in school because it is said that he was effeminate.

At some point Parsons developed an interest in building rockets which he made with gun powder. He also studied occultism and devil worship. The family’s ¬†financial situation worsened during the Depression and Parsons was unable to attend college. His career is really complicated. Because of his talent for building rockets he was hired To design them. Later on He worked at a lot of other jobs especially after he was blacklisted as being a spy for the Israelis and could no longer find employment for anything related to government. Children of Divorce do tend to get bullied a lot.

Parsons’ relationships were pretty forward thinking and casual and strange. He lived for a while with his wife, her boyfriend and his girlfriend in a house. ¬†His girlfriend left him for science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard.

Parsons died at age 37 on June 17, 1952 while building explosives for a movie set. His house blew up. The death was either an accident or suicide or murder. The police ruled that it was suicide. His mother committed suicide right after.

Exemplary Children of Divorce – Philip K. Dick
May 29, 2016, 4:02 pm
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The next couple of examples of Children of Divorce are interesting for their interest in futuristic thinking and science fiction. They are from an older generation who would have grown up with extreme stigmatism surrounding divorce. They also would probably never become successful in the modern world because their behaviors would not be tolerated and they would be subdued by psychiatric treatment (with no discussion of growing up in trauma, of course).

The first exemplary child is science fiction writer Philip K. Dick. He was born Dec. 16, 1928. His parents divorced when he was around the age of 5 because his father transferred jobs to Reno, NV and his Mother wanted to remain in Los Angeles, CA.

Like many Children of Divorce, Dick didn’t complete college. He also married 5 times. Dick had 3 children. He suffered from symptoms related to schizophrenia which Wikipedia says was triggered by medication given to him for a dental treatment.

Exemplary Children ofDivorce – Glenn Beck
October 30, 2014, 2:28 am
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The parents of conservative radio and TV show host Glenn Beck divorced when he was 12 years old. He discusses the divorce a bit and talks about how his Mother was a victim of domestic violence from her boyfriend. Beck lived at first with his Mother. She drowned in a lake while boating with the boyfriend. Her death was ruled a suicide. Glenn and his sister lived with their Father. Both parents were alcoholics.

Here’s another story about a 12 year old influenced by his first Jupiter return since his parents divorced around the time of his first Jupiter Return. We see the influence of Jupiter’s rulership in Glenn Becks career choice in media. Jupiter also rules religion which seems to be important in Beck’s life. He was born Roman Catholic and has since become a Mormon.

Exemplary Children of Divorce – Monica Lewitsky
October 29, 2014, 7:47 pm
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Okay, so I’m not sure about the “exemplary” part, but Monica Lewitsky became famous for having an affair with President Bill Clinton. Clinton had many affairs but Lewitsky became his most famous dalliance. This may be explainable by the age she was when her parents divorced. Lewitsky was 14 years old. This puts her under the influence of her first Saturn opposition.

Saturn is ambitious and wants fame which can sometimes lapse into notoriety. Saturn also rules father figures and Lewitsky had an affair with a much older man. Saturn also rules the President. To top it off, the opposition aspect is often associated with relationships.

Wikipedia (can’t get link to work) says that Lewitsky was very upset by her parents divorce. This makes sense as natally her Saturn is challenged by a square to Pluto. This brings a feeling of grief, loss and of being unsupported.